{"id":2891,"date":"2015-12-07T05:50:26","date_gmt":"2015-12-07T13:50:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/evergreensmallbusiness.com\/?p=2891"},"modified":"2019-07-01T15:34:54","modified_gmt":"2019-07-01T22:34:54","slug":"ten-million-dollar-ira-accounts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/evergreensmallbusiness.com\/ten-million-dollar-ira-accounts\/","title":{"rendered":"$10,000,000 Individual Retirement Accounts and 401(k)s: Actually Possible?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/evergreensmallbusiness.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/piggy_banks.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-2878 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/evergreensmallbusiness.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/piggy_banks-300x201.jpg\" alt=\"Picture of piggy banks\" width=\"300\" height=\"201\" srcset=\"https:\/\/evergreensmallbusiness.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/piggy_banks-300x201.jpg 300w, https:\/\/evergreensmallbusiness.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/piggy_banks-622x415.jpg 622w, https:\/\/evergreensmallbusiness.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/piggy_banks-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/evergreensmallbusiness.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/03\/piggy_banks.jpg 847w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In an online forum recently, I saw someone suggest you\u00a0can accumulate a $10,000,000 \u00a0Individual Retirement Account or 401(k) account.<\/p>\n<p>This is clearly incorrect. But the statement got me wondering about a couple of things.<\/p>\n<p>First, what is the realistic maximum one can accumulate in common retirement savings vehicles like IRAs, Simple-IRAs and 401(k) plans.\u00a0 And, second, how crazy a scenario <em>do<\/em> you need to produce a $10,000,000 result.<\/p>\n<p>So I\u2019m going to poke around both questions here.<\/p>\n<h2>Maximum Possible IRA, Simple-IRA and 401(k) Plan Balances<\/h2>\n<p>We need to come up with a set of modeling assumptions to make the calculations, first.<\/p>\n<p>Accordingly, let\u2019s assume that someone starts at age 22 and saves for 45 years until full retirement at age 67. That\u2019s clearly a best case scenario, right?<\/p>\n<p>Also, just to give the saver an extra year of interest on every contribution, let\u2019s assume the contribution occurs at the beginning of the year rather than 15 months later when the tax return is due. \u00a0Again, this is pretty \u201cbest case\u201d\u2026 but we\u2019re talking \u201cbest case,\u201d right?<\/p>\n<p>Furthermore, assume that someone saves the <em>absolute<\/em> maximum amount each year. So that\u2019s $5,500 for an IRA, $12,500 for a Simple-IRA and $18,000 for a 401(k).<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s also assume that this someone bumps savings at age 50 for the catchup amount.\u00a0That means at age 50 that the IRA contribution jumps to $6,500, the Simple-IRA contribution jumps to $15,500, and the 401(k) contribution jumps to $24,000.<\/p>\n<p>What\u2019s more, both Simple-IRAs and 401(k) plans usually include employer matching amounts so let\u2019s assume that the Simple-IRA participant makes $50,000 annually (roughly the average household income in the U.S.) and then gets a match equal to 3% of that $50,000, or $1,500.<\/p>\n<p>And let\u2019s assume that the 401(k) plan participant makes (just for giggles) $100,000 annually (roughly double the average household income in the U.S.) and then gets a safe harbor match equal to 4% of that $100,000, or $4,000.<\/p>\n<p>Note that no one could actually save this aggressively and regularly. And people usually don\u2019t start their careers earning the average and certainly not twice the average. But hey we\u2019re talking a best-case scenario.<\/p>\n<p>With that in mind, here are the maximum values I calculate:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>IRA &#8211; $949,401<\/li>\n<li>Simple-IRA &#8211; $2,428,989<\/li>\n<li>401(k) &#8211; $3,851,867<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>By the way, I think the (admitted simple) methodology used here produces a median future value.<\/p>\n<p>Accordingly, if a big bunch of people were just absolutely maximizing their retirement savings every single year of their working life, maybe half of the maximizers would end up with less than the values I\u2019ve calculated and half would end up a more.<\/p>\n<p>I will stipulate that a few\u2014a tiny few\u2014could even end up with quite a bit more than the values I\u2019ve provided. But clearly you can\u2019t say someone should assume a $10,000,000 future value is feasible. (And I doubt anyone in the scenarios we\u2019re talking would actually end up with $10,000,000.)<\/p>\n<h2>A Misleading Scenario<\/h2>\n<p>Okay, I know what at least one or two readers are thinking. They get the logic here. Maybe they even agree. But just for sake of thoroughness, they want to know what scenario <em>would<\/em> produce a $10,000,000 future value.<\/p>\n<p>I can think of three possible scenarios. One that\u2019s misleading and two that show how crazy you need to make the math.<\/p>\n<p>The misleading scenario occurs when you ignore inflation over the years of saving.<\/p>\n<p>If you bump the rate of return from 5% to 10% because you expect a 5% real rate of return plus 5% inflation, for example, the theoretical maximums look like this:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>IRA &#8211; $4,393,973<\/li>\n<li>Simple-IRA &#8211; $11,204,932<\/li>\n<li>401(k) &#8211; $17,665,092<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>These numbers mislead, however, because these dollars are not the same size as the dollars we\u2019re talking about. The dollars we\u2019re talking about\u2014the ones you and I earn and save\u2014are way, way bigger.<\/p>\n<p>Forth-five years of inflation will shrink dollars massively. We might as well be comparing dollars to pesos or to yen as comparing 2015 dollars to 2060 dollars if we&#8217;re assuming inflation runs 5% annually.<\/p>\n<h2>Two Crazy and Unrealistic Scenarios<\/h2>\n<p>You can also construct crazily unrealistic scenarios that get you to $10,000,000, however. So let me do that too.<\/p>\n<p>For example, if you say that from age 22 to age 72 you\u00a0 make $250,000 a year as a self-employed contractor (a rock musician?) and so can contribute $50,000 to a SEP-IRA for 50 years, that basically gets you to $10,000,000. (The actual future value I calculate is $10,990,769.)<\/p>\n<p>And here\u2019s a second \u201ccrazy\u201d scenario:\u00a0 If you start saving earlier (when you\u2019re born), you can\u2019t get to $10,000,000 with an IRA or a Simple-IRA. But you can get to $10,000,000 if you use a 401(k). This crazy scenario is, well, crazy. But imagine a childhood actor with financially competent parents and business managers.<\/p>\n<h2>Concluding Comment<\/h2>\n<p>Can I finish off this discussion with what I hope is a helpful comment?<\/p>\n<p>You need to save for your retirement. And probably you are behind on that saving (because basically everybody is behind). But you don\u2019t do yourself any favors by setting crazy goals or listening to people who are setting crazy goals.<\/p>\n<p>A related tip: If you\u2019re interested in modeling what might be an appropriate, balanced level of savings given your income and your potential Social Security benefits, take a peek at this earlier blog post, <a href=\"http:\/\/evergreensmallbusiness.com\/income-allocation-versus-asset-allocation-why-income-allocation-is-more-important\/\">income allocation versus\u00a0asset allocation<\/a>. (My guess, by the way, is that ideally the average person should work until full retirement and then try to accumulate between $250,000 and $500,000 in retirement accounts.)<\/p>\n<p>Finally, you can download a copy of the Excel workbook I used to make the calculations described in this blog post by clicking here.<a href=\"http:\/\/evergreensmallbusiness.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/12\/TenMillionDollarIRAsN401Ks.xlsx\">TenMillionDollarIRAsN401Ks<\/a><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h2>Are You a Small-Business Owner Looking to Reduce Taxes?<\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/evergreensmallbusiness.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/stephennelson_smallbiztax.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-7415 size-medium\" src=\"http:\/\/evergreensmallbusiness.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/stephennelson_smallbiztax-231x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"231\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/evergreensmallbusiness.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/stephennelson_smallbiztax-231x300.jpg 231w, https:\/\/evergreensmallbusiness.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/stephennelson_smallbiztax.jpg 246w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 231px) 100vw, 231px\" \/><\/a>Small-business owners often don\u2019t do a good job with\u00a0maximizing their legitimate tax deductions.<\/p>\n<p>For example, business owners usually\u00a0don\u2019t go to the effort of structuring their operations to protect legitimate deductions, to create new deductions and to recycle (or double-deduct) the deductions which can be used more than once to save taxes.<\/p>\n<p>Which is really too bad. 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