Comments on: Tax Strategy Tuesday: Start a Pension Plan for Yourself https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/tax-strategy-tuesday-start-a-pension-plan-for-yourself/ Actionable Insights from Small Business CPAs Wed, 05 Jan 2022 22:28:52 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Ru https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/tax-strategy-tuesday-start-a-pension-plan-for-yourself/#comment-10764 Wed, 05 Jan 2022 22:28:52 +0000 https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=16273#comment-10764 In reply to Stephen Nelson CPA.

You would think ADP should!

Seems like IRS Notice 2021-20 makes it clear via the aggregation rules.

It seems that if you take a credit for a recovery startup you can claim $7,000 per employee/quarter (70% of their first $10,000 in wages). But if you take the credit because you had a decline in gross receipts below 80% of what you made in 2019 for the same quarter, then you can only claim $5,000 per employee/quarter.

Is that correct?

My business qualifies both ways (we made less than 80% in Q4 2021 than we did Q4 2019) and I also opened a separate business (which has no employees yet, but under the aggregation rules it seems that qualifies me to take a credit for employees from my first business).

Does it matter which route companies take to claim the credit (startup recovery vs. decline in gross receipts)?

Thanks Stephen!

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By: Stephen Nelson CPA https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/tax-strategy-tuesday-start-a-pension-plan-for-yourself/#comment-10763 Wed, 05 Jan 2022 15:30:49 +0000 https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=16273#comment-10763 In reply to Ru.

That IRS Notice 2021-49 (link at bottom of blog post) gives the details for the recovery startup business credit.

BTW, the actual statute (the tax law) appears here: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/3134

P.S. ADP should know this. 🙁

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By: Ru https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/tax-strategy-tuesday-start-a-pension-plan-for-yourself/#comment-10757 Tue, 04 Jan 2022 19:09:43 +0000 https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=16273#comment-10757 Hi Stephen

Great content as always. My question is in regards to your other post, but I can’t seem to comment on that one https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/tax-strategy-tuesday-startup-business-employee-retention-credit/

I started a second business in 2021. Based on your post, it seems that I should be able to take a retention credit in Q4 2021 on the employees from my original (first) business. Which would be wonderful.

But, my payroll company (ADP) can’t find IRS language that supports this. I couldn’t either.

Would you be kind enough to share where/how you came to this interpretation?

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