By the way? Most people probably end up with a better outcome using a traditional IRA or 401(k). But you want to “run the numbers”

Click the Calculate button to see example calculations using the default inputs. To get actionable insights for your own “Roth or not” decision, replace the default inputs with your own. Detailed instructions and additional information appear below the calculator.

Collect the Roth Calculator Inputs

Contribution:
Years of Saving:
Years of Spending:
Rate of Return:
Inflation Rate:
Saving Years Tax Rate:
Spending Years Tax Rate:
Qual Dividends Tax Rate:
Qual Dividends Yield:
Calculate

Simple Strategy Withdrawals

Hybrid Strategy Withdrawals

Collecting the Inputs

You need to collect a handful of inputs. Most make intuitive sense. You enter the annual contribution you will make, the years you’ll save and the years you’ll spend, and then the nominal return and inflation rate you expect.

You need to enter at least two tax rates: your saving years “marginal” tax rate and the spending years tax rate on the withdrawals. The saving years marginal tax rate allows the calculator to estimate the taxes you save by making a deductible contribution to a tax-deferred IRA or 401(k). The spending years tax rate allows the calculator to estimate that taxes you’ll pay on the withdrawals from your tax-deferred IRA or 401(k).

Note: Your saving years tax rate usually is higher than your spending years tax rate. Your saving years tax rate equals your top marginal tax rate. The spending years tax rate, in comparison, blends low tax rates and higher tax rates. Also many people, and probably most people, report higher incomes during their working years than during their retirement years.

Understanding the Simple Strategy Results

The Roth Calculator lets you look at simple Roth strategies where you start with a set amount of pre-tax income. (Like $7,000.) And then either you use all of that pre-tax income to contribute to a traditional IRA or 401(k). Or you can first pay the taxes on that income and then contribute the leftover, after-tax amount (like maybe $5,320) to a Roth IRA or Roth 401(k).

Obviously, when you contribute smaller amounts to a Roth account with the simple strategy, you end up with a smaller future value. But that smaller future value represents after-tax savings. Thus, as you draw from the Roth account, you avoid paying income taxes again.

The calculator then assumes you annuitize the IRA balances over the specified years of spending. And that you pay income taxes only on the withdrawals from the traditional IRA or 401(k) at the spending years tax rate.

Obviously, you want to replace the default entries with your own personalized inputs. But the 22% tax rate is what a single filer reporting taxable income between roughly $47,000 and $100,000 might pay in 2024. Or what a married couple reporting taxable income between roughly $94,000 and $200,000 might pay in 2024. The 11% tax rate is what somone might pay by drawing from a roughly $500,000 IRA account and receiving typical Social Security benefits.

Understanding the Hybrid Strategy Results

The Roth Calculator also lets you look at a hybrid strategy where you contribute the same amount to both accounts. (Probably the maximum contribution allowed? So a number like $7,000.) But then you also save the extra tax savings you get from the traditional IRA contribution. In other words, if you save $1700 in income taxes by contributing to a traditional IRA or 401(k), the calculator looks at what happens if you save that money in a tax efficient stock index fund. The calculator assumes you pay qualified dividend tax rates on the dividends during your saving years. Thus, to model the hybrid strategy, you may want to replace the qualified dividends tax rate and the qualified dividends yield with your own numbers.

One other note: The hybrid strategy formulas assume you pay the qualified dividend rate on half of the money withdrawn from the taxable account. That’s probably conservative. Many retirees might pay less tax. (If paying taxes on only half of the money sounds wrong, remember that you’ve already been taxed on the contributions over the years. And on the dividends.)

Additional Resources

If your modeling suggests a Roth IRA or Roth 401(k) doesn’t make sense and that’s a surprise? You might find this old blog post useful: Are Roth-IRAs and Roth-401(k)s Really a Good Deal?

To get up-to-date IRA and Roth-IRA contribution limits refer to the IRS’s “Retirement Topics – IRA Contributions Limits” web page.

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That got me thinking: How much tax do you really save with a backdoor Roth? And the answer: Probably not as much as you hope.

But let’s start with an overview of how Roth IRAs work. And then I’ll show you how a tax accountant calculates the tax benefits of a Roth IRA conversion, aka a “backdoor Roth.”

First a Quick Explanation

A Roth IRA lets you contribute money to a special version of an IRA, or individual retirement account. You don’t get a tax deduction in the year you make a contribution to a Roth IRA. But as long as you follow the rules, you don’t ever pay income taxes on your Roth IRA’s earnings. Or when you draw money from the account.

You do not, for example, pay income taxes when/if your Roth IRA earns dividends and capital gains that first year, the second year, and so on.

Even better? In retirement, so maybe two or three decades from now, you do not pay income taxes as you draw the money you contributed. Or draw the profits your investment earned over the years.

That all sounds good. But not every taxpayer gets to make regular contributions to a Roth IRA. For 2023, a single taxpayer can’t earn more than $138,000 and a married couple can’t earn more than $218,000 and make a full Roth IRA contribution. (In 2024, those limits rise to $146,000 and $230,000.) Also as you cross those income limits, the amount you can contribute to a Roth IRA phases out. (More details here.)

Which is where the backdoor Roth IRA comes in…

How Backdoor Roth IRA Works

If high income taxpayers can’t contribute directly to a Roth IRA, they usually can contribute money to a nondeductible IRA. Even if they have a regular retirement plan at their job.

They then can convert that non-deductible, non-Roth-IRA account to a Roth-IRA account. And that two-step dance allows a higher-income taxpayer to get money into a Roth IRA. Thereby dodging the income limits I mentioned earlier.

A final important point: As long as the person doesn’t hold other traditional non-Roth-IRA IRA balances? She or he moves the money into a Roth-IRA account without paying any income taxes.

Calculating the Front-end Annual Tax Savings

But the idea doesn’t work as well as you might hope. Most people don’t save much tax during the years they work using a Roth IRA. Or using a backdoor Roth IRA.

Let’s look at the numbers for 2023 for a typical taxpayer aged 49 or younger who can “backdoor” $6,500 into a Roth IRA and then avoid income taxes on the earnings.

While the $6,500 might earn, say, five percent or $325 the first year? An investor investing outside of a Roth IRA wouldn’t have gotten taxed on the full $325. Rather, she or he gets taxed on just the dividends and realized capital gains. And probably that fraction of the return? Only lightly taxed.

Note: I use five percent as the rate of return because after rounding the Vanguard Group expects that return over the next decade.

The taxed dividend yield on a US stock market index fund like Vanguard’s Total Stock Market, probably runs roughly 1.8%. On a $6,500 Roth IRA, that means taxable income of maybe $117 the first year.

Most taxpayers won’t even pay taxes on that income. But at a 15% qualified dividend tax rate—so for example married people making more than $123,500 adjusted gross income in 2024—the first year savings equal about $18.

That annual savings amount grows over time if someone keeps on “backdooring”: $36 in year two, $55 in year three, $75 in year four, and so on.

After two decades of steady backdoor Roth IRA contributions, the annual tax savings might be $500 to $600 annually. Which is pretty good. But maybe not great.

You would not want to pay an accountant $200, $300 or $400 an hour or pay a financial planner 1/2% or 1% fee to help you harvest these sorts of modest savings.

Calculating Back-end Roth IRA Tax Savings in Retirement

Fortunately, the back-end tax savings of a Roth IRA look better. Use a Roth IRA and in retirement, you won’t pay income taxes when drawing down the money.

An example illustrates this: Say someone saving $6,500 annually faces two choices: Invest money using a backdoor Roth IRA or invest money using a regular old taxable account. To keep this all apples-to-apples, assume something like the Vanguard Group’s Total Stock Market Fund.

If the investor earns five percent return annually and pays a 15% tax rate, they end up with almost identical balances after two decades. The Roth-IRA balance equals $226,000 and the taxable account balance equals $219,000. (The $7000 difference reflects that annual income tax bill. And, yes, I’m rounding.)

But here’s the thing: The Roth-IRA investor can draw the entire $227,000 balance without paying income taxes.

In comparison, if the “taxable account” investor draws the $219,000? She or he may trigger long-term capital gains taxes on the unrealized gains, or appreciation, in the account. Those unrealized gains which may get taxed equal roughly $53,000 using the assumptions provided earlier.

How much tax would someone pay on $53,000 of long-term capital gains in retirement? You have to do the accounting carefully.

A middle-class taxpayer and even some upper-class taxpayers might pay zero taxes, as noted earlier. And so most people, especially in retirement, could draw down a large taxable account without paying income taxes. Especially if they drain the account over multiple years.

A high-income taxpayer, in contrast, might potentially pay a 15% or even 20% capital gains tax. She or he probably also will pay the 3.8% Obamacare tax. That would mean an $8,000-ish to $13,000-ish total tax bill.

But often even these folks have good ways to dodge this tax bill. Spreading realization of the gain over a few years. Using some of these funds for charitable contributions. Leaving the money for their heirs which would let them entirely avoid paying taxes on the gain.

Closing Comments and Caveats

Given the above? I don’t find backdoor Roth IRAs particularly compelling. Sorry. But, three final thoughts:

First, if you expect higher returns? Or if inflation runs hot? (The inflation rate embedded in that five percent return from Vanguard runs between two and three percent, by the way.) In those scenarios, the tax savings from a Roth IRA get better.

Second, I think you don’t do this for only a year or two. Rather, you do something like this over decades. That’s the way to snowball the benefits. You’re working the compound interest engine when you do this.

Third, finally, this awkward acknowledgement. Most people don’t earn enough or accumulate enough to pay the sorts of taxes a Roth-IRA account saves. Especially in retirement. Therefore, backdoor Roth IRAs really only make sense for high-income taxpayers who can confidently look forward to high-income lifestyles in the final chapters of their lives.

Note: We’ve got several blog posts that describe the economics of what one might label, ‘”Frontdoor” Roth IRAs and Roth 401(k)s: Are Roth IRAs and 401(k)s Really a Good Deal?,  Worst-case Scenarios for Roth-style Accounts, and The Only Times You Want to Use a Roth-style Account. If you found this blog post interesting, you might also find those interesting too.

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No easy answer exists. But these inputs matter for planning.

And so maybe predictably, people fall into the habit of just extrapolating the past. Maybe assuming they, their clients or readers will enjoy the historical average return on stocks or on a balanced portfolio.

Starting with the historical average? That’s probably an okay place to begin. But I’m going to argue you and I want to make several adjustments to average returns to improve the usefulness of our forecasts. So let me share some thoughts and tips.

First Tip: Understand Whether Returns Adjusted for Inflation

A first quick tip: Understand whether you’re looking at real, adjusted for inflation, returns or not.  Ideally you’ll work with real rates of return. (That’s best.) But if you must work with nominal, or unadjusted-for-inflation returns, be sure you know that. Because when you work with rates of returns without knowing whether the rates are real or nominal? It scrambles our ability to understand what’s going on.

A quick example to show you what I mean: Blogger Ben Carlson posted a few years ago that the worst-case all stocks return equals nearly 8%. He was talking about why you don’t need to worry about going all-in on stocks. Here’s the actual language:

The worst 30 year return — using rolling monthly performance — occurred at the height of the market just before the Great Depression and stocks still returned almost 8% per year over the ensuing three decades.

A little later in his post, Mr. Carlson acknowledged that his number ignored inflation. But that seems to me like a pretty important omission. Why? Because the adjusted for inflation return equals about 2.5%. That’s a huge difference.

If you earn an 8% return, you double your money every 9 years. If you earn a 2.5% return? You double your every 29 years.

By the way, you can tell Portfolio Visualizer, one popular tool, to adjust dollar amounts for inflation. You check a box. FireCalc and cFireSim both work in adjusted-for-inflation numbers.

But the big point here: Before you do anything else, nail down whether the numbers you’re looking are real or nominal, adjusted for inflation or not adjusted.

Second Tip: Recognize Variability in Investment Portfolio Returns

Another tip for thinking about returns and portfolio ending values. You and I aren’t guaranteed a predictable return if we invest in the stock market. Not even if we invest for a long time.

An example: If you invested $1,000,000 into your retirement account, paid a low .08% expense ratio for three decades, and invested 100% in US stocks, cFireSim says historically your results look like what show in the following table:

Just to be clear, the median adjusted for inflation return equals roughly 6.56%. That’s good. You or I can easily prepare for retirement with that real annual return.

But the worst-case result equals 2.57%. Five percent of investors earned 3.96% or less. And ten percent of investors earned 4.32% or less. Those numbers are not as good.

And the main point: Earning 3% or 4% over three decades as opposed to the median 6.56% annual return? You’re talking probably about hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars of difference, as the table above shows.

Thus we want to plan for this variability. Not ignore it.

A quick sidebar here: If you’ve read something that suggests differently? Let me make this observation. I will guess what you’ve heard goes like this: Sure, in short term? You absolutely might be up and down, gosh, 50% in any given year? But over time the zigs and the zags even out. That’s sort of true.  But not true to a degree you want to rely on. As at least a couple of Nobel Prize winners, Paul Samuelson and Robert Merton, have pointed out. (Economist Zvi Bodie has a great free discussion of this topic here: Wishful Thinking About the Risk of Stocks.)

Third Tip: Model the Right Saving Amounts and Timing

A mechanical point next. Sometimes when you estimate returns and portfolio values, you’re calculating the future vale of a single initial lump-sum investment made up front. For example, you might make calculations similar to those reflected in the preceding table. There, I calculated historical returns and values for a single $1,000,000 investment made at the very start of a 30-year time span.

The numbers look differently however if you save annually. For example, if you save $10,000 at the end of every year. Or if you start with a $25,000 lump sum investment and then save an additional $5,000 each year.

Thus, you want to work with calculators that show the same pattern of investments you plan to make. The popular FireCalc website doesn’t let you do this very easily. Neither does the Portfolio Visualizer website or the PortfolioCharts webside. The cFireSim web site does let you do this easily.

Fourth Tip: Factor in Fees and Expenses

A drum lots of people bang on. But one worth hitting at least one more time. I’m using a low .08% expense ratio for the calculations here. That’s a “Vanguard-low” level of fees on the hodge-podge of mutual funds I actually hold. And you can almost ignore fees at that level. A fee set at .08% equals $800 annually on a $1,000,000.

But many folks are paying more than that for an investment advisor. And if someone pays a larger fee like 1%? One would want to subtract that fee from all of the percentage returns shown in the tables above.

An average real return of 6.56%, for example, shrinks to 5.56% if you’re paying 1% in fees.

A tenth percentile real return of 4.32% shrinks to 3.32%.

If you have to pay 1% for an investment advisor? Okay. I get it. But make sure you account for that.

And make sure you understand that in a worst-case scenario? Your investment advisor may be capturing nearly half of the historical real return.

Fifth Tip: Consider Current Market Conditions

Let me end with something more, er, controversial.

I think we want to consider adjusting return estimates for higher stock market values in the U.S. at least. And also for the long-term trend in ever-lower interest rates.

Some investors appear to still confidently predict the future will mirror the past. That appears overly optimistic to me. Good data exists which suggest interest rates have been trending down over centuries. (See here.) That surely means it’s reasonable to think about earning less on bonds if you’re including those in your portfolio.

Low dividend rates and high valuations suggest future equity returns should be lower than over the last century.

Personally? I’m using Vanguard’s market outlook as my long-term forecast. (An example appears here.) Vanguard supplies a range of nominal (so not adjusted for inflation) returns by asset classes, which is good.

Two Final Comments So I Don’t Leave You Bummed Out

Before I end, a couple of remarks.

First, the stuff in the preceding paragraphs? Just to be clear: I don’t think it means you or I go off and do something unorthodox.

We will want to follow the prescriptions given by like David Swensen, John Bogle, Burton Malkiel, Bill Bernstein, the Bogleheads forum, and anyone else promoting low-cost passive investing that emphasizes traditional assets classes. Especially equities.

Second, if outcomes look a little less rosy once you adjust for the things mentioned above? The practical way to address them for most folks is probably to save more or work a  longer.

Some Other Resources Related to Investment Portfolio Returns

A discussion of why high valuations suggest longer-run returns: CAPE Fatigue.

The first post in a series about having a backup “plan b” for retirement:  Retirement Plan B: Why You Need One.

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Those low returns raise interesting questions. But one that matters a lot to retirees? How much can you safely draw if, going forward, stocks, bonds and other assets deliver a real return roughly half their historical average. So maybe for stocks something like 3 or 3.5 percent rather than 7 percent.

The Problem with Historical Data

A great question. But a question hard to answer. And for a simple reason. We don’t have much historical data to use for modeling what works safely when investors should expect low returns.

In fact, I count two examples where investors should have expected low returns going forward: Right before Black Tuesday in October 1929. And then in the late 1990s before the dot-com crash.

But that’s not enough to generalize. The 1929 scenario probably did fail for 100 percent stock portfolios if someone started in 1929 and withdrew 4 percent. (A balanced portfolio probably didn’t.)

And for those retirements that start in say 1999 or 2000? We don’t know yet. We haven’t had a full thirty years of data. (Those retirees do look to be in pretty good shape so far.)

Thus, this idea: Maybe we use a Monte Carlo simulation. And calculate not historical safe withdrawal rates. But Monte Carlo safe withdrawal rates.

The attraction there? We need just a couple of pieces of data: The arithmetic mean return expected. And then a standard deviation.

But with those two values, we can get an idea as to how much one might draw in a worst-case situation in a low-expected-returns environment.

Using a Monte Carlo Simulation Given Absence of Good Historical Data

Conveniently, the Red Portfolio Black Portfolio spreadsheet I constructed recently for a blog post last year (see below) will let you do that.

You can download a free copy here: RedPortfolioBlackPortfolioVer1. And then you just follow these steps:

1. Specify the starting balance into cell B4,
2. Enter a negative value into the cell B5 to show the probable starting withdrawal amount.
3. Specify the percent increase in the draw using cell B6. (This is essentially the inflation rate.)
4. Enter the standard deviation for your primary “Red” portfolio into cell B8 and the arithmetic mean return into cell B9. Back of the envelope calculations, which I’ll describe in a minute, suggest an arithmetic mean return of maybe 6.2% for a balanced portfolio of 70% stocks and 30% bonds like you might use for retirement? That portfolio’s standard deviation probably roughly equals 11.3%?
5. The spreadsheet uses a second standard deviation and arithmetic mean as a benchmark “Black” portfolio for comparison. For now, enter the Black Portfolio standard deviation as 6% and its arithmetic mean as 5.4%. These values represent my guess of what a 100% Treasury Inflation Protected Securities (aka TIPS) portfolio would show. But more on that in a few paragraphs.

Can I also throw out a tangential comment? I think given the purpose of this Monte Carlo simulation, you use rounded whole percentages. Like maybe 11 percent and 6 percent from the Red and Black Portfolio’s standard deviations. And then maybe 6 percent and 5 percent for the arithmetic averages. Those rounded percentages might be good reminders that what we’re doing here? A learning thing. Not hardcore research for some academic study.

Interpreting Monte Carlo Safe Withdrawal Rates Line Chart

Once you get the inputs entered, Excel recalculates the workbook and plots 100 simulation results for the Red Portfolio using red lines. It also plots the best and worse scenarios from another 100 simulation results for the Black Portfolio using thick, black dashed lines.

A line chart that uses the inputs above appears below. And what the line chart suggests? A 4 percent withdrawal looks risky. Those red lines dropping down to zero? Those signal failure scenarios. You can experiment a bit. I think you’ll find your Monte Carlo safe withdrawal rate looks more like 3% to 3.5% if you’re talking a three-decade retirement funded by a balanced portfolio. So, making the math easy, with a $1,000,000 to start, a starting draw of $30,000 to $35,000.

Benchmarking Against TIPS

I designed the Red Portfolio Black Portfolio spreadsheet so someone can compare one portfolio’s simulations (the Red Portfolio) to the best and worst outcomes of another portfolio (the Black Portfolio).

That begs a question, which is what do you use as the alternative when you’re thinking about safe withdrawal rates in a low expected returns environment? I wondered about this bit. And then realized the Bogleheads, or some of them, already have a go-to idea. Worried about low returns requiring a low safe withdrawal rate? Just use Treasury Inflation Protected Securities or TIPS.

That makes sense as a hunch. So for fun, I estimated the nominal arithmetic mean return on TIPS as equal 5.4% based on the the fixed interest rate (2.2%) for TIPs the day I drafted this article and a 3% inflation rate, and then the historical standard deviation (6%) . Note that the spreadsheet calculates and works with nominal returns which means you need to adjust the real return TIPS deliver (so the 2.2% in the earlier example) for the inflation you anticipate.

The worst and best case scenarios for this TIPS portfolio show up in those thick black dashed lines in the chart shown earlier. Interestingly, as the line chart shown illustrates, you can fail with a 4% withdrawal rate. But a 100% TIPS portfolio also might not fail even after 40 years.

Again, I used inputs that suggest more precision than is probably appropriate. I’d say go with rounded whole percentages if that makes you feel better.

Calculating Arithmetic Means for Monte Carlo Safe Withdrawal Rates

Obviously, the trick here is coming up with good arithmetic returns and standard deviations. And for portfolios like the ones you want to understand. Wade Pfau provides an online resource you can use for some of this information (see here.)

For a balanced portfolio’s expected returns, you need to go to a little bit of effort to get the numbers you need. But here’s how I’d approach the work. I think you use the 3.5% geometric mean Illmanen expects for US stocks as your expected return for that part of your portfolio. That number, he calculates as the sum of the 1.5 percent growth in earnings per share plus the 2 percent-ish dividend yield. If one adds two to three percent for inflation, you’re at 5.5 to 6.5 percent as a nominal geometric return. So maybe we split the difference and say a 6 percent nominal return on stocks.

Ten-year treasuries return (roughly) 4.7 percent as I write this and maybe represent a guess for that part of your portfolio? Thus, if you go with 70 percent in stocks generating 6 percent and 30 percent in bonds generating 4.7 percent, your portfolio earns a geometric return of roughly 5.6%. To roughly convert that geometric mean to an arithmetic mean, add one half of the squared standard deviation, which Portfolio Visualizer suggests is around 11.3%, and the adjustment equals .6%. That gives you basically 6.2% arithmetic return.

For the 100% TIPS portfolio, I’d look at today’s real yield (roughly 2.2% as I write this), add a 3% inflation guess to this to get a geometric return of 5.2.%-ish and again bump up this geometric return by one half of the 6-percent-ish squared standard deviation. That’s about a .18% adjustment. Which means to model TIPS, you use a roughly 5.4% arithmetic mean and a 6%-ish standard deviation.

Note: If you have questions about the spreadsheet including questions about how to convert geometric means to arithmetic means, refer to its FAQ: Red Portfolio Black Portfolio FAQ.

Closing Remarks about Monte Carlo Safe Withdrawal Rates

Some closing remarks. First, simple Monte Carlo simulations suggest that the old four percent rule of thumb won’t work 95 percent of the time with a balanced portfolio. You and I are probably looking at something closer to three percent if we invest on the basis of a 95 percent success rate. (That would be especially true for members of the FIRE community who want to fund not three decades of retirement but four or more decades.)

Second, even in a world of low expected returns, most people probably can draw more than whatever the Monte Carlo simulation shows as the lowest rate that doesn’t fail more than about 5 percent of the time. (This was always the case with the 4 percent safe withdrawal rate too, right?) So keep that in mind. The theoretical very worst-case scenarios are something you and I need to plan for a little bit. But those outcomes are unlikely.

A third comment straight out of from Ilmanen’s book. His obvious conclusion regarding low expected returns? We may want to save more if we can. Maybe work longer if that’s an option. Or possibly we will need to spend less if we experience a batch patch of returns in retirement. But mostly? We just need to understand returns going forward probably won’t be as good as they’ve been. And forewarned? Yeah, we can make this work.

And, finally, a fourth comment: The TIPS option seems pretty interesting.

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But can I challenge that idea? Argue (politely) bonds matter in some cases? And then because it’s pretty obvious to me a number of vocal investors and even investment advisors don’t understand the math? Would it make sense to quantitatively show both how bonds help and hurt? I think so. So let me keep going…

The Big Bond Misunderstanding

I’m not absolutely sure about this. But in discussing with many investors why bonds don’t belong in an investment portfolio, two facts seem to be what “bond haters” focus on.

First fact? That over time, the average return on equities adjusted for inflation equals roughly 7% while the average return on bonds adjusted for inflation equals about 2%.

Note: I calculated these returns using cFireSim.com and Microsoft Excel on August 21, 2023. At that time, the actual average real return of an all-stocks portfolio equaled 6.64%. The actual average real return of an all bonds portfolio equaled 2.14%.

Second fact, that while stock prices and returns swing wildly from year to year, the variability dampens down over time. (This is true.) And this fact is often followed by a half-fact. If you can just hold stocks long enough, you win. (This is often the case but not necessarily true.)

Often if some writer is talking about this “all stocks” strategy, she or he includes a chart that shows how as time passes the annual return on stocks “reverts to the mean.” Or “averages out.” Here’s a crude version of one these charts I whipped up for another blog post, Unreliability of Long-run Stock Market Returns.

But chart above fosters a misunderstanding: We aren’t guaranteed to earn that better average return on stocks if we just hold on long enough. Yes, you or I will probably get a better result from an all-stocks portfolio. But we won’t for sure “guaranteed” get that.  A significant chance also exists we’ll lose money with an all-stocks portfolio as compared to a balanced portfolio that includes stocks and bonds. Or that we’ll more likely run out of money in retirement if we use an all-stocks portfolio.

Because of this reality, some people probably want to include bonds in their portfolios. Who? People willing to trade away the higher upside from stocks and the likely higher average return for dodging some worst-case scenarios.

But Stocks Always Beat Bonds Right?

I’m going to get pretty gritty about the details in a few paragraphs. But before I do that? Let me first show graphically a very recent example where an all stocks portfolio loses compared to a balanced portfolio which holds 70 percent in stocks and 30 percent in U.S. Treasury bonds. Figure 2 below shows a line chart the Portfolio Visualizer Backtest Portfolio tool draws for three example portfolios. The blue line shows a 100 percent allocation to US stocks. The red line shows a 70 percent allocation to US stocks and a 30 allocation to US long treasuries. And the yellow line shows a 100 percent allocation to US long treasuries.

Two observations. First, if you started in 2020, over the next two decades, an all-stocks portfolio (the blue line above) performed more poorly than an all bond portfolio (the yellow line above). The all stocks portfolio only catches up in year 21. (This shows in the chart when the yellow line crosses the blue line.)

Second, even after more than 22 years? A balanced portfolio (the red line) beats the all stocks portfolio (again the blue line). No, you’re right. The all stocks portfolio may be ahead at year 25. Or year 30. (I hope it will be. I’m personally allocating 30 percent to US stocks.) But the line chart shown above doesn’t prove that if you or I just hold stocks long enough, we always win. In fact, it hints the opposite.

Note: If you use US intermediate treasury bonds rather than US long treasury bonds, the all-stocks portfolio looks better. But not much. And the intermediate treasuries still do reduce your downside risk over a couple of decades.

Calculating Downside Protection from Bonds

You can use another Portfolio Visualizer too, its Monte Carlo simulator, to assess example effects of adding bonds to your portfolio. Specifically, you can use that tool to get an idea as to how much upside risk you give away by adding bonds, how the average return probably shrinks by adding bonds, and then how the downsize risk probably lessens by adding bonds.

Just follow these steps, for example, to assess the downside risk avoided by adding bonds:

1. Enter https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/monte-carlo-simulation into your web browser’s address box.
2. Set the Cashflows drop-down list box to “No Contributions or Withdrawals.”
3. Verify the Simulation Model drop-down list box shows “Historical Returns.”
4. Open the Intervals drop-down list box, and select Custom. Portfolio Visualizer adds two new text boxes: Percentile Intervals and Return Intervals.
5. Edit the Percentile Intervals values to show 1, 5, 10, 20, 30.
6. Set the Asset 1 drop-down list box to “US Stock Market.”
7. Enter 100 into the Asset 1 Allocation text box.
8. Click Run Simulation.
9. Check the Inflation Adjusted box.

Figure 3 below shows the line chart with the first, fifth, tenth, twentieth and thirtieth percentile outcomes for an all-stocks portfolio based on historical returns. (Click the image to see a larger version of the chart.)

To see what a 70-percent stocks and 30-percent US intermediate treasuries allocation looks like, follow these steps:

1. Enter 70 into the Asset 1 Allocation text box.
2. Set the Asset 2 drop-down list box to “Intermediate Term Treasury”.
3. Enter 30 into the Asset 2 Allocation text box.
4. Click Run Simulation.
5. Check the Inflation Adjusted box.

Figure 4 below shows the line chart with first, fifth, tenth, twentieth and thirtieth percentile outcomes based with an balanced portfolio generating historical returns

The big thing to note: The all-stocks portfolio’s worst-case scenarios? They’re worse, much worse, that the those that occur for a balanced portfolio.

The “Do Bonds Matter” Simulation Summarized in a Table

The line charts in Figures 3 and 4 make it hard to see precise numbers. But the table below shows the ending values from the two simulations to make comparisons easier.

Let me specifically call out four observations.

First observation, the calculations above don’t show actual three-decade long returns for the two portfolios. Not enough unique thirty-year historical outcomes “exist”. Thus, the simulation uses historical returns as the inputs to 10,000 different simulations. (The first percentile shows the average of the worst 100 simulations.) Also, note that if you run your own simulations using a starting value of $1,000,000, you’ll get slightly different ending values. That’s the nature of the simulation.

Second, the risk minimization you get with bonds? You see that by comparing the first percentile, fifth percentile, and tenth percentile ending values.  In all those cases, the worst-case balanced portfolio investor ends up with—per the simulation—a few hundred thousand dollars ahead of the worst-case all-stocks investor. That’s the example benefit of adding bonds. Again, note that the investor in this simulation started with $1,000,000.

Third, somewhere between the 20^th and 30^th percentiles, the all-stocks portfolio beats the balanced portfolio. That makes sense. Most of the time, an all-stocks portfolio gives you a better return. That’s why you and I want to hold as large a percentage in stocks as we can. Especially early on in our saving.

Fourth, you probably ought to go back and redo your simulations so you can see how well the 50^th percentile, the 75^th percentile and 90^th percentile investors do too. Those investors make out like bandits by loading up on equities.

Just So There’s Not a Misunderstanding

To close, four tangential remarks about this “bonds matter” argument.

First, I’m not arguing everyone should load up on bonds. Rather, I’m trying to show quantitatively how bonds can reduce your downside risk.

Second, for what it’s worth, I’m thinking a modest allocation to bonds. Something like 30 percent. (That’s my actual allocation.) Or 20 percent. Or maybe 40 percent.

Third, I think we follow the suggestion of former Yale endowment fund Chief Investment Officer David Swensen and use U.S. Treasury Bonds and Inflation Protected Securities. (This suggestion from Swensen’s classic book, “Unconventional Success.“)

Fourth, let me reference a couple of related blog posts. You might want to peek at our Unreliability of Long Run Stock Market Returns blog post because it includes a full discussion of that “just be patient everything evens out” line chart that people commonly misinterpret. And you might also want to look at another article here:  Rate of Return of Everything Line Charts. That blog post may be worth skimming too to get a good visual sense of the variability of stock market returns in different countries and over the last 150 years.

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That reality doesn’t really have anything to do with this blog’s usual subjects: tax laws, accounting, and small business.

But in a recent post about why entrepreneurs often ought to consider working longer, I commented that working longer lets someone avoid sequence of returns risk. Some people challenged that a bit. And asked some questions.

So I wanted to elaborate. But let’s start at the beginning.

An Example of Sequence of Returns Risk

Many people know that history suggests you can usually draw four percent from your nest egg and then adjust the withdrawal amount annually for inflation.

Someone who starts retirement with $1,000,000 can draw $40,000 the first year.

In the second and all subsequent years, they can bump up the previous year’s draw amount for inflation.

If inflation runs five percent in year one, in year two the person can draw $42,000. Because $42,000 is five percent more than $40,000.

Almost always, that four percent draw rate works. In fact, only five cohorts of retirees would have failed when using a four-percent draw for a thirty-year retirement since roughly when the U.S. Civil War ended. People starting in 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968 and 1969.

And those five failing cohorts? They fail because of a bad patch of returns (and inflation) as the person’s retirement starts.

Avoiding Sequence of Returns Risk

No one can know ahead of time whether they start retirement at the wrong time. Sequence of returns risk will be apparent only when you or I look in the rearview mirror.

But this maybe useful observation: Work a few years longer? Maybe three or four or five years longer… so you move the start of retirement farther into the future?

Well, do that and you inoculate your retirement portfolio against sequence of returns risk.

Fact-checking the Math

You can check my math on this. And should. Here’s how.

Visit the cFIREsim retirement planner and click Run Simulation button. cFIREsim will calculate roughly 120 retirement planning scenarios where someone with a $1,000,000 plans to retire for three decades starting immediately and where the person plans on a $40,000 draw to start.

Five scenarios, or roughly four percent, fail. All because of a bad sequence of ugly returns and terrible inflation in the late 1960s and through the 1970s.

Then, add five years to the retirement start date and click the Run Simulation button again. cFIREsim will again calculate roughly 120 scenarios for someone with a $1,000,000 who plans to draw $40,000 to start and annally adjust for inflation. But with a tweak. This time, the person calculates scenarios where retirement starts in five years, not today, and then runs for twenty-five years.

When you run this second “work longer” scenario? No historical scenarios fail (at least using cFIREsim’s default asset allocation of 75 percent stocks and 25 percent bonds.) Because the person dodges the sequence of returns risk.

Why Working Longer Works

And why does working longer work? A couple of reasons basically.

First, when retirement portfolios fail because of a bad sequence of returns at the start, failure occurs at the tail end of the retirement. Shortening the length of retirement in effect cuts off the tail where failures potentially occur. That’s the first big reason working longer works.

A second thing that helps when you work longer? The extra compounding of investment returns on a larger portfolio. That compounding nicely bumps up the size of a retirement nest egg. Working five more years, for example, on average bumps the starting retirement nest egg size by maybe 30 to 40 percent percent? And then a related point: If you or I work longer, we can probably add a bit more to the nest egg.

Note: Using the cFIREsim default portfolio settings and delaying retirement for just three years zeroes out one’s sequence of returns risk. Historically, then, you don’t actually need to work five years longer. Just three. And that’s assuming you don’t add to your retirement nest egg.

Final Comments

A couple-three final comments to wrap up this short essay.

First, most people don’t retire with a $1,000,000. Or anything near that amount. I used $1,000,000 here because it makes the math easy. And because that’s the number cFIREsim uses as its default.

Second, if you have a job you hate? This plan doesn’t work. You know that. I know that. This idea to work longer is a plan for people who like work and all it entails. Or maybe an idea for people who like work most days.

A final third point: This idea of working longer isn’t the only way dial down your sequence of returns risk. Other tricks and techniques exist. For more information, check out our series on developing a “Plan B for retirement.”

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So this blog post discusses this notion.

But first a quick caveat. The idea to “retire late” or “not retire at all” might reasonably be someone’s “Retirement Plan A”.

However everybody who plans to not retire or who plans to retire very late needs to plan for the possibility that they stop working earlier than they plan.

That caution made, however, at least five compelling reasons exist to retire late.

Reason #1 to Retire Late: People

A first compelling reason: The people you work with. For example, you may be working with great people you connect and collaborate with only because you work.

The obvious example of this situation for many small business owners? When they get to work with family members. Or long-time friends.

But if you have customers or clients or vendors you’ve worked with for decades? Those relationships may run pretty deep, too. May be pretty intimate. That’s a reason to keep working and stay connnected.

And then another angle to consider here: For many of us, work represents the most diverse social environment we enjoy. Work may be the place where folks from different cultures, backgrounds, ages or viewpoints gather. So another reason to retire late or work longer.

Reason #2 to Retire Late: You May Be Really Good

A second reason to keep working: You may be rather good at what you do. Or even really good at what you do.

So good, in fact, that you enjoy a flow experience through work. At least most days.

Which is something to consider. Because you may lose that if you retire.

An example of this: The Economics department of Harvard University where you’ve got tenured faculty in their sixties and seventies still doing research that matters. (I talked in last month’s blog post about the long-run trend in long-term interest rates study that some of those guys did, including Ken Rogoff who is in his late sixties as I write this.)

Reason #3 to Retire Late:  Compelling or Interesting Work

Another reason to keep working: Work may provide you with unparalleled opportunities for intellectual stimulation. And creative outlet.

Which makes sense, right? As compared to what you or I might cook up on our own in the garage? Or the backyard?

The structure of a job or workplace helps. The chance to collaborate with other creative, skilled and fun people helps. Access to far deeper resources helps.

I’m not really a student of Buffett-ology. But it seems pretty safe to say Warren Buffett (age 92) continued working long after he became a billionaire because he enjoyed the work.

And watching a recent concert by the rock band Journey? Band leader Neal Schon (age 68) still obviously deeply enjoys that experience.

Reason #4 to Retire Late: The Money

In many roles, and maybe especially for entrepreneurs and small business owners, your last years of work may be your highest income years.

You may for example be leveraging decades of experience. Enjoying the fruits of your sweat equity and labor.

A small business you own or mostly own may generate a higher return on investment than you would earn in a traditional asset class like a stock index fund.

A $1,000,000 of equity in a small business, for example, might generate on average $400,000 of income. If an entrepreneur liquidates that business, pays capital gains taxes on the gain, and then reinvests the $800,000 left over after taxes? The $400,000 of business income might drop to $30,000 or $40,000 of investment income.

No, money isn’t everything. And the love of money is the root of all sorts of evil as the Apostle Paul reminds us. But the money can matter. Sometimes a lot.

Retiring late should innoculate you from something called “sequence of returns risk,” which is just a fancy way to say the risk you encounter a bad patch at the start of your retirement.

And retiring late should nicely boost the amount you can draw from your retirement accounts.

 Reason #5 to Retire Late: Unusual Autonomy

A final factor to consider for entrepreneurs and small business owners? The control and autonomy the business owner enjoys.

That autonomy on its own probably bumps up the enjoyment of working. (See this study for example: Time Use Study of Millionaires. )

And then even beyond that, an entrepreneur or business owner may be able to structure a continuing role that works well not just for the business but also for the entrepreneur. And for her or his family.

I feel like I see many examples of this among our clients who choose to continue working.

Enough said. But one last comment. It’s been the holiday season for many. So belated holiday greeting to you and for your family. And best wishes for the coming year!

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The research provides economists and policy makers with new perspectives and insights. But it should also cause some individual investors and small business owners to rethink their retirement plans.

So I want to summarize the research, point out a couple of connections to retirement planning, and make three suggestions.

But let’s start with a quick review of the research.

Long-run Trends in Long-term Real Interest Rates

The research from Rogoff, Rossi and Schmelzing says that over the really long haul, long-term, real interest rates trend down at a steady .00016 percent each year.

Basically, a 1.6 percent reduction every century.

Four or five decades into the future, if the trend continues, long-term interest rates reach zero. Maybe even go into negative territory. At least per the trend line.

Only two shocks even break the 700-year trend. First, the bubonic plague pandemic in the 14^th century in which maybe a quarter to a half of the people in Europe died. So, to put that into context, a situation roughly one hundred to two hundred times worse than the COVID-19 pandemic.

And then the second shock? The big sovereign borrower defaults in the late 16^th century when three of the world’s largest governments (France, Spain and the States General of the Netherlands) defaulted on their loans.

The economists don’t explain why the long-run trend occurs. Or why it appears so steady. They do say the data doesn’t support the obvious or conventional explanations. Neither population nor output growth explain it, for example.

But despite the unanswered questions related to this new information? I think I see at least two connections to our retirement planning.

Past Returns Poor Predicter

A first obvious connection: The past may not be a great predicter of the future.

If long-term interest rates on the safest “sovereign borrower” loans, which the paper mostly looks at, steadily grind down? Gosh, that strongly suggests that the bonds many of us include in our portfolios will pay lower and lower interest rates over the coming decades.

Further, the steadily decreasing long-term interest rates paid by sovereign borrowers suggests that stock market and equity investment returns may steadily grind down, too.

The theory says that investment returns reflect the risk-free interest rate. Textbook formulas say the return on an investment should equal the risk-free rate plus a premium for bearing risk.

Thus, the unfortunate situation investors face: Not only are returns today probably lower than in the past. Going forward? They’re probably continuing to steadily decline.

A tangential comment: The popular financial planning tools FireCalc and cFIREsim look at 150-year-ish histories of stock and bond returns. That sounds pretty good as a sample size. But that may also mean they describe an investing environment where returns were maybe one to two percent above what you or I should expect in coming decades.

Note: It looks to me, as I write this in the fall of 2022, that the ten-year US Treasury bond rate is right on the long-term trend line.

Half-Century and Century Datasets Too Short

A second less-obvious connection: The steady 1.6 percent decline in long-term rates every century shows up only because Paul Schmelzing assembled a very large dataset. The researchers point out that looking at 75 years or 150 years? Not enough to spot the trend that appears once you look at the big data.

And so this notion: Working with financial planning tools (like FireCalc or cFIREsim) that predict on the basis of a 150 years or data? Or, worse probably, working with financial tools (like PortfolioCharts or Portfolio Visualizer) that predict on the 50 years of data? That seems like a bad idea to me if we’re trying to assess safe withdrawal rates.

Don’t get me wrong. I love those financial planning tools. They provide great insights.

But the small datasets they use? Yeah, probably those datasets aren’t large enough to let us see all the extraordinary economic shocks, so called tail events or black swans, that impact a safe withdrawal rate plan.

Another tangential comment: The Portfolio Visualizer also includes a Monte Carlo simulation. And that tool does provide a way to fold tail events and black swans into our planning.

Actionable Insight #1: Workers Need to Save More

Okay, so three quick suggestions as to what actionable insights investors can maybe draw from this new information.

First an insight for people still working and saving: If you’ve implicitly or explicitly based your financial plans on past returns? Probably you’re not saving enough. Or you’re planning to retire too early. Sorry.

You therefore probably need to save more, work longer, or a little bit of both.

Two ideas to throw out at you for saving more? First idea: You want to get as much remuneration as possible for your worktime. Anything you or I can do to bump our earnings a bit—like acquire a new skill—makes a huge difference. Maybe all the difference needed in fact. We want to focus then not just on the financial capital in our investment portfolios. We want to actively manage our human capital, too. (A longer discussion of this subject here: Human Capitalists in the Twenty-first Century.)

A second idea for saving more: If we’re going to work a bit longer—and two or three years should be enough to get back to plan—we want to do something enjoyable. Or mostly enjoyable. A role with interesting challenges. Something that keeps us socially engaged. Physically active.

Actionable Insight #2: Retirees Should Stay Alert

A second insight for retirees: You should not overreact to a long-run downward trend in interest rates and stock market returns. Lower real returns in the future does not mean your retirement plan fails. Rather, I think it means the chance of failure is a little higher than the popular financial planning tools show. Which you already know.

So a little extra frugality if you’re planning on a really long retirement? Maybe spending less when the stock market goes through a rough patch? That sort of thinking, to me, makes a ton of sense. Which again you already know.

Actionable Insight #3: Small Business Owners Reconsider Timing

A final thought for small business owners: If you own and operate a small business that gives you a good income? Especially a small business that keeps you intellectually stimulated and constructively engaged with life?

I’m just going to say it. You may want to delay your exit from the business. Your small business may not only provide you with a good income. The equity in your small business may significantly juice your investment portfolio returns.

Example: You’ve got a small business that makes, say, $250,000 a year. You could maybe sell the business for $1,000,000. After taxes you’ll net maybe $800,000. And that sounds pretty good. But what will you earn on the $800,000? Five percent? So $40,000 a year?

You got to think about whether you should delay the drop from $250,000 a year to $40,000 a year.

Related Resources

Here’s a link to the “Long-run Trends in Long-maturity Real Rates 1311-2021” research paper: click here to grab a copy you can read and ponder.

We’ve talked before about having a plan “B” for your retirement. This blog post might be helpful if you’re now a little bit perplexed: Retirement Plan B: Why You Need One.

Finally, if you’re interested in learning more about Monte Carlo simulations by building your own simple simulation spreadsheet, peek at these two blog posts: Stock Market Monte Carlo Simulation and Small Business Monte Carlo Simulation.

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After mulling over the authors’ ideas for the last several weeks, a conclusion: What these guys report? It matters to small business owners and entrepreneurs. A lot.

Capitalists in the Twenty-First Century Research

The economists’ research makes a fascinating observation: The largest share of the income earned by the top one percent and the top one-tenth of the top one percent? Non-wage business income earned by partners and S corporation shareholders. And more specifically, typically business owners working in a high-skill, “human capital” business.

Definitely not trust fund babies anxiously awaiting their next distribution. Or passive investors fueling high living with dividends and capital gains. Something much, much different than these stereotypes.

Let me quote from the research to give you their insight about just who makes up the top one percent and top one-tenth of one percent:

The data reveal a striking world of business owners who prevail at the top of the income distribution. Most top earners are pass-through business owners. In 2014, over 69% of the top 1% and over 84% of the top 0.1% earn some pass-through business income.

The research also describes the sorts of firms that top one percenters typically own:

Typical firms owned by the top 1-0.1% are single-establishment firms in professional services (e.g., consultants, lawyers, specialty tradespeople) or health services (e.g., physicians, dentists).

And also the sorts of firms that the top one tenth of the top one percent own:

A typical firm owned by the top 0.1% is a regional business with $20M in sales and 100 employees, such as an auto dealer, beverage distributor, or a large law firm.

This observation challenges the hypothesis presented by French economist and author Thomas Piketty in his bestseller “Capital in the Twenty-First Century.” (You see where Smith, Yagan, Zidar and Zwick got their paper’s name.) And it also challenges the work of Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman who have employed Piketty’s ideas to develop wealth tax proposals for the United States.

But does the paper from Smith, Yagan, Zidar and Zwick also point out new rules for twenty-first century entrepreneurs? And new rules for today’s investors? I think so. In fact, I see at least three big insights that drop out of their research.

Twenty-First Century Entrepreneurs are Human Capitalists

The first big obvious insight from the research? Simply this: If you want to work as an entrepreneur or own your own business, probably you want to start a human capital business.

You don’t want to be a financial capitalist.

You want to be a human capitalist. A skilled expert who provides an in-demand service. And then you want to work your way into an ownership role in a firm that delivers that service.

So, probably not a real estate thing. Probably not something that uses a factory. And probably not a deal where you raise financial capital from angel investors or venture capitalists or banks.

Rather what you want to think about are business ventures you can only do because you went to medical or law school. Or because you went to college and got a technical degree. Or because you have spent years learning some high-skills trade or craft. And as a result, you personally have acquired a lot of human capital in the form of knowledge, maybe credentials and then also experience.

For example, the top three S corporation categories of top one percent earners? A doctor’s office, a technical services firm, and a dentist’s office.

And the top three partnership categories of top one percent earners? A law firm, a doctor’s office, and an accounting firm.

The list of top earning categories appears at the very end of the 60-page research paper (see link at end of this blog post). But just so you know. All sorts of high skill categories appear on the list, including specialty contractors, restaurants, and you name it. Not just white-collar-y professions. Human capital comes in many colors and sizes.

Wealth Building Works Differently for Human Capitalists

Another actionable insight from the research: People don’t automatically get rich from running a super-successful human-capital business. Or at least not rich as rich gets depicted in movies or books. Or depicted in the research from Piketty, Saez and Zucman.

The Smith, Yagan, Zidar and Zwick research results highlight this reality. They point out that when top one-percent-ers retire or die, the income earned by their human capital business drops by eighty percent or more.

The researchers logically conclude, then, that the business income earned by these firms mostly reflects the labor provided by the firms’ owners.

And then here is another take-away for entrepreneurs: Most owners of successful small businesses need to build wealth outside their businesses. By saving a big chunk of the business owner’s income.

In other words, the way to build net worth is not by selling the firm and exiting with a giant windfall. That is not a likely outcome even for super-successful small business owners. Why? Because these firms rely on human capital that evaporates when the owners die or retire.

Rather, the reasonable best-case outcome is probably two or three decades of great income from the business you own. Which small business owners and entrepreneurs should use to fund two or three decades of aggressive saving.

We pointed out in a blog post a couple of years ago, Lifetime Earnings of the Top One Percent, that someone would need to earn a top one percent income and make the maximum 401(k) contribution for three decades to accumulate a couple of million dollars. Which is great, don’t get me wrong.

But there’s a big difference between earning a $300,000 year (which if earned over thirty years might put you in the top one percent) and then drawing $80,000 annually from your $2 million retirement (which would reflect an average rate of return while accumulating and then use of the well-known 4 percent safe withdrawal rate in retirement.)

Is Everyone a Human Capitalist?

Finally, a quick last comment. And this isn’t something Smith, Yagan, Zidar and Zwick say. But I think their research supports the conclusion.

Individuals need to think more about investing in their human capital. Even when they aren’t interested in entrepreneurship or small business ownership.

All the time and energy people spend trying to juice portfolio returns or tweak their asset allocation? (Investing books, time spent in online forums and so on.)

And all the time people spend thinking about and then building and managing a portfolio of rental properties? (Seminars and workshops, books and again online forums.)

I mean, that’s all good. But probably the big money opportunity? Finding a way to grow your or my human capital: a new skill, more knowledge or experience, a credential the economy financially rewards, and other stuff like that.

Related Resources You Might Find Useful

Here’s a link to the paper from Matthew Smith, Danny Yagan, Owen M. Zidar and Eric Zwick: Capitalists in the Twenty-First Century. This obvious comment you don’t need me to make: If you’re an attorney, accountant or investment advisor, you want to read this research paper. Probably more than once. It describes who your (and my) clients are.

Smith, Zidar and Zwick published another research paper that builds on the “Capitalists” paper and provides some updated information: Top Wealth in America: New Estimates under Heterogeneous Returns

Finally, it’s not specifically about twenty-first century entrepreneurs or investing. But we did a blog post on the That Nearly Secret IRS Wealth Study which further discusses the research of Zwick.

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Which is fine. Probably good.

Roth accounts let people time when they pay the tax on retirement savings. (The trick to making them work: Try to pay the taxes when your tax rate is lowest.)

But all this obsessing about Roth-style accounts sometimes obscures a tax reality: Some really good Roth alternatives exist.

For example, other ways exist to realize tax-free investment gains. Or nearly tax-free gains.

Other ways exist to extract income from a tax deferred account without paying taxes. Finally, for folks who see Roth accounts as a way to dial down required minimum distribution problems? Yup, even there, other non-R0th alternatives exist for addressing this predicament.

In this blog post, therefore, I list the ten best Roth alternatives.

Before I step through the list, however, let me review how Roth accounts save taxes. I promise. I’ll be quick.

How Roth Accounts Save Taxes: A Quick Review

Many folks don’t really understand how Roth accounts save taxes. But the mechanics work in a straight forward manner.

Say you have $10,000 of income from a job or a business.

You need to report the income on a tax return. And say you have two choices. You can report the $10,000 of income on this year’s tax return. Or you can report the $10,000 of income on a tax return you file in thirty years. So, say in 2051.

What you want to do is report the income on the tax return with the lower tax rate applied to the income.

For example, if you pay a 20% tax on this year’s tax return and a 30% tax on the return you file in 30 years, you want to report the income on this year’s tax return.

And the way you can do that? Use a Roth account. In other words, save $10,000 into a Roth-style 401(k) account or into Roth-IRA accounts. You will still pay a 20% income taxes on the $10,000 this year. But when you withdraw the $10,000 in 30 years, you avoid a 30% income tax.

By the way, if you pay a 30% tax on income this year and think you’ll pay a 20% in 30 years? You want to flip the timing. In this case, you want to report the income on the tax return you file 30 years from now.

And the way you can do that? Use a traditional IRA account. That traditional account means you pay taxes on the money in 30 years.

Finally, one other important point. Compound interest ironically does not change the math. The math works just as simply. (We have a longer blog post here, Are Roth IRAs and 401(k)s Really a Good Deal , that explains how compound interest affects the calculations.)

And now let’s step through the alternatives you can consider in place of a Roth-IRA or Roth-401(k). Because you probably have options available you don’t know about. Or Roth alternatives you haven’t fully appreciated.

Roth Alternative #1: An IRA or 401(k) Less than 90th Percentile

For example, let’s start with an option often hiding in plain sight: A regular old IRA or 401(k). For most people? This option counts as a great Roth alternative. And the reason? For 80 to 90 percent of the population, a Roth account delivers zero or nearly zero tax savings.

But let me explain. Suppose you’re single, take the standard deduction and receive $30,000 of Social Security benefits. In this scenario, you can draw $16,000 a year from an IRA or 401(k) basically without paying any federal income taxes. So an appropriate annual draw from a traditional tax-deferred IRA with a $400,0000-ish balance. Which means a Roth account may deliver zero benefit if you end up with a balance that’s $400,000 or less.

If you’re married? The numbers bump up by about 50 percent. If you two take the standard deduction and receive $45,000 of Social Security benefits and draw $24,000 a year? Basically you guys pay zero federal income taxes. Even though this scenario reflects you drawing down a traditional tax-deferred IRA with, gosh, maybe as large a balance as $600,000. Which again means a Roth accout may deliver zero benefit if you end up with tax-deferred accounts of $600,000 or less.

By the way, based on Federal Reserve data, about 80 to 90 percent of people possess wealth that puts them under the account balance thresholds mentioned in the preceding paragraphs. Which means 80 to 90 percent of our friends and family get a great result from a traditional tax-deferred account.

Roth Alternative #2: Qualified Opportunity Zones

Not everyone wants or can save using a tax deferred account, however. So let me mention quickly a couple of tax planning opportunities that, like a Roth account, allow entrepreneurs and active investors to enjoy income tax free.

The first tax planning opportunity? Making an investment in a qualified opportunity zone and then, key to this gambit, hanging on to the investment for a decade or longer.

We’ve got a longer blog post here that explains how qualified opportunity zone investments work. And this tax planning gambit isn’t without extra costs and severe limitations. Especially if an investor uses a qualified opportunity zone to delay paying the capital gains taxes on some earlier, profitable investment.

Note: An active investor or entrepreneur can reinvest capital gains from another investment and thereby delay having to pay taxes and even in some cases reduce taxes.

But in a nutshell, qualified opportunity zones work this way: If you invest in an economically distressed area, you may be able to avoid paying taxes on capital gains.

If that sounds crazy, it may help to understand that Congress created this “loophole” to incent entrepreneurs to invest time and money into those neighborhoods and communities where limited economic opportunities exist.

Rother Alternative #3: Qualified Small Business Stock

Another de facto alternative to a Roth-style account? Investing directly in a corporation’s stock when the corporation’s shares qualify as Section 1202 stock.

If you invest directly in some small corporation and it qualifies for Section 1202 status, you can under Section 1202 exclude some or even all of the gain you enjoy from taxes.

Rules exist, of course. The corporation’s business needs to not be a professional service or investment holding company. You need to hold the stock for at least five years. Further, the stock needs to be original issue stock–not stock you bought from some other investor.

Also, limitations exist. Under current laws, your excluded gain equals the lesser of either $10,000,000 or ten times your original basis but not more than $50,000,000. Also, the exclusion hasn’t always been 100%, as it is now. Further, Congress is discussing changing this chunk of tax law. (The Build Back Better Act that Congress disscussed earlier this year proposed that high income taxpayers don’t get a 100% or 75% exclusion. Only a 50% exclusion. High income taxpayers are folks who earn more than $400,000 a year.)

In any case, for some small businesses, the Section 1202 qualified small busines stock exclusion provides an alternative to the Roth account.

Note: We have a couple of longer posts that explain how Section 1202 works here and here.

Roth Alternative #4: Qualified Charitable Distributions

Part of the attraction of Roth-style accounts? Extracting money without paying income taxes. But taxpayers sometimes have other ways to withdraw money in tax-deferred accounts without paying income taxes.

For example, an easy idea for taxpayers aged 70.5 and older who do charitable giving? You can instruct your IRA custodian to make the charitable contribution for you directly.

In effect, this removes the money from your IRA without you needing to report the withdrawal as income.

For example, if you direct your IRA custodian to directly pay $10,000 to a local qualified charity, you disclose the distribution and charitable contribution on your tax return. But two amounts zero each other out. The final taxable amount equals zero (More details here.)

Roth Alternative #5: Deductible Medical Expenses

A similar approach can sometimes allow withdrawals from IRA used for medical expenses to escape most taxation.

Suppose a taxpayer incurs a $10,000 monthly expense for nursing care.

To keep things simply, assume the only income the taxpayer realizes comes from a $10,000 monthly IRA distribution.

In this scenario, the taxpayer reports $120,000 of the IRA withdrawals over a year as income. But the taxpayer’s nursing home expenses add a $108,000 itemized deduction to the return.

That will nearly zero out or even totally zero out the taxpayer’s taxable income.

Roth Alternative #6: Tax Smart Portfolio Construction

Something we’ve noticed when helping clients solve the Roth conversion puzzle…

How someone constructs their portfolio can impact the attraction of or need for Roth conversions if someone worries about required minimum distributions pushing them into higher tax rate brackets.

You need to model this notion. But say someone with $1,000,000 of retirement savings invests 60% in stocks and 40% in bonds.

Further, assume that 80% of the retirement nest egg, or $800,000, sits in an IRA and the $200,000 reminder sits in a taxable account.

In a situation like this, if bonds sit in the IRA (so that $800,000 IRA holds $400,000 of bonds and $400,000 of stocks)? And then the $200,000 of taxable investments represent 100% stocks and that amount sits in a taxable account?

That construction approach probably dials down the need for or attractiveness of a Roth conversion.

Someone in this situation who draws, say, $40,000 a year from their retirement nest egg may just draw the dividends and long-term capital gains from the taxable account. (In this example, that might be $10,000 or $12,000 annually and this income will probably be taxed at a zero-percent rate). And then the person can draw the last bit of needed income–$28,000 to $30,000 in this example–from their IRA. That amount should be very lightly taxed.

A married couple might use their standard deduction to shelter nearly all of this income.

This approach probably results in some federal income taxes. Mostly because the Social Security benefits end up partially taxable. But the overall tax burden should be very low. Maybe 2 or 3 percent?

Roth Alternative #7: Delay Social Security

Taxpayers regularly consider how to optimize the timing of their Social Security benefits.

A common tactic (which we agree with) is to delay starting Social Security benefits to get a bigger benefit, bigger tax-free income and also to hedge against the risk of living a long time.

But delayed Social Security benefits can in effect become a “Roth alternative.”

If someone who delays taking Social Security also draws larger amounts from their IRA in the years before they receive Social Security? That arrangement, because it siphons off extra funds early on, may also reduce the attractiveness or need for a Roth account or Roth conversion due to large late-in-life required minimum distributions.

Roth Alternative #8: Disclaim IRA

A Roth conversion alternative for folks who inherit IRAs? They may want to disclaim an IRA if that means the IRA then goes to secondary beneficiaries who can and will use the required IRA withdrawals to stuff their own IRA or 401(k) accounts.

For example, a widow could disclaim an IRA with a $200,000 balance to her two children. Over a decade, those children might be able to each annually withdraw an amount that funds the largest possible 401(k) contribution or IRA contribution… and thereby move the money from their parent’s retirement account to their own.

Such a gambit mostly functions as an estate planning maneuver. But the gambit also allows a taxpayer with large unneeded IRA balances to right-size their portfolio and shrink their required minimum distributions.

Roth Alternative #9: Leave the Balance and Problem for Beneficiaries

A related idea? Someone might just choose to not worry about the tax liability embedded in their tax-deferred retirement accounts.

This approach leaves the “problem” if you want to call it that for the heirs. But that may make sense for a couple of reasons.

First, in a very real sense, your (and my) tax rates drop to zero once we’re dead. So anything we leave in a tax-deferred retirement account is tax free to us. (Sorry, but that’s the reality.)

Second, even if you or I want to think about heirs’ tax burdens, heirs may pay a lower tax rate during their drawdown than the sort of parents who find themselves planning for the “I’m worried about taxes during retirement” scenario.

Roth Alternative #10: Adjust Expected Returns

One other final Roth alternative? You may want to model your retirement numbers (including your expected draws and taxable income) using a lower expected rate of return.

Stock market valuations appear very high. As I’m writing this, the cyclically adjusted price earnings ratio approaches 40.

Interest rates look very low.

If your or my portfolio generates a return that is, say, 80% of what we originally planned? We may end up fine in terms of our retirement lifestyle. (I think we can and probably will.)

But we will all also have a smaller tax problem if returns and nest eggs shrink. And that smaller tax problem? It also reduces the need for and attractiveness of Roth conversions.

Final Comments

A couple of quick comments to close. First, the discussion above ignores state income taxes. So you want to include those in your analysis. Don’t forget them. Unless you live someplace that doesn’t tax income or doesn’t tax retirement benefits. Or unless you plan to move to state in retirement that doesn’t levy an income tax.

A second thing to note: If you’re covered by Medicare, you want to consider the impact of any income-related monthly adjustment amount (IRMAA). For upper-middle-class and upper-class Medicare beneficiaries, one’s income can push up the cost of Medicare. (More details here.)

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