Comments on: Lottery Tax Planning for a Billion Dollar Drawing https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/lottery-tax-planning/ Actionable Insights from Small Business CPAs Mon, 23 Jan 2023 23:08:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Stephen Nelson CPA https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/lottery-tax-planning/#comment-11010 Mon, 23 Jan 2023 23:08:28 +0000 https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=23805#comment-11010 In reply to Morgan.

I think you’re right that if a family could annuitize a, say, $3M jackpot over thirty years, it would make more sense to take annual payments. And for the reason you point to. Better to pay a low or middle tax rate on the winnings than mostly 37%.

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By: Morgan https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/lottery-tax-planning/#comment-11007 Mon, 23 Jan 2023 02:46:31 +0000 https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=23805#comment-11007 This article was super fun but now I think you should do a ‘if you win 3 million’ version. We have better odds of a smaller jackpot. πŸ˜‰

The spouse and I were discussing a smaller win the other day and I felt it likely that a median income family would do better over the long haul to take the annuity. That assumes the payments would stay in the 12% tax bracket so savings would be significant and there’s less a chance of windfall mismanagement….

M.

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By: Stephen Nelson CPA https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/lottery-tax-planning/#comment-11003 Tue, 17 Jan 2023 23:57:13 +0000 https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=23805#comment-11003 In reply to Chanan Goldberg.

Yup, yup. That works if you meet the more than 750 hours and more than 50 percent of your time thresholds.

More info here: Real estate professional

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By: Stephen Nelson CPA https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/lottery-tax-planning/#comment-11002 Tue, 17 Jan 2023 23:54:25 +0000 https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=23805#comment-11002 In reply to Wendy Korman.

Great idea Wendy. Now one of us just needs to win! πŸ™‚

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By: Chanan Goldberg https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/lottery-tax-planning/#comment-11001 Tue, 17 Jan 2023 16:59:47 +0000 https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=23805#comment-11001 Enjoyed reading the article. I would think if it’s still early in the year, to become a real estate professional by quitting your job, use the money to invest in real estate with a high percentage in furniture and/or land improvement using the maximum mortgage possible (this would allow you to basically deduct your entire down payment using cost segregation and bonus depreciation), spend at least 750 hours on the real estate, and you will be able to avoid paying taxes on most of the earnings that year.

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By: Wendy Korman https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/lottery-tax-planning/#comment-10996 Thu, 12 Jan 2023 14:45:01 +0000 https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=23805#comment-10996 This is good to know for when I win on Friday! With that said, what about setting up a complex trust (i.e., The Lottery Winning Trust) with your favorite friends and your family members as beneficiaries. Fund the trust with a nominal amount and make sure to notate that the trust is buying the lottery ticket. Sign the back of the ticket as β€œThe Lottery Winning Trust.” Have the trust report and pay the taxes and then distribute funds to the beneficiaries. Your thoughts?

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By: Stephen Nelson CPA https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/lottery-tax-planning/#comment-10995 Thu, 12 Jan 2023 00:28:44 +0000 https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=23805#comment-10995 In reply to Thao.

Thanks Thao. And like you, I thought taking the lump sum sort of a fairly orthodox idea. Thus I was surprised the Tax Advisor articles advised differently. As I noted in blog post, when I calculated the return on investment using the Mega Millions numbers from today, I got a 3.7% tax-free nominal rate. That’s decent. But not that great.

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By: Stephen Nelson CPA https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/lottery-tax-planning/#comment-10994 Thu, 12 Jan 2023 00:26:04 +0000 https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=23805#comment-10994 In reply to Jerry Seo.

Thanks for sharing Jerry. And I agree that with a really big balance, an asset allocation formula like Buffet suggested makes a lot more sense. If you’ve got $10M or $15M in treasuries… and then your other 90% in an institutional index fund? Seems pretty clean. πŸ™‚

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By: Thao https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/lottery-tax-planning/#comment-10992 Wed, 11 Jan 2023 21:59:17 +0000 https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=23805#comment-10992 Enjoyed reading your article. I am a tax accountant and as a rule usually advise clients to take a lump sum if offered and invest it. There is a risk of non-payment. Even if it means paying more in taxes. Money in your hands are surely worth something than not.

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By: Jerry Seo https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/lottery-tax-planning/#comment-10991 Wed, 11 Jan 2023 21:49:07 +0000 https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=23805#comment-10991 Like Todd, I really enjoyed this article. Also bought some tickets for the big one. With that amount of money I would be hard pressed to think of ways to invest it. Real estate? Stocks? And keeping track of the investments would be a full time job in itself. I want to enjoy it, not work harder! So the suggestion of 90% in an index fund and 10% in US government bonds would be seriously considered. Definitely for my wife, who relies completely on me for all things financial.

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