Comments on: Will Obamacare Penalties Kill Your Small Business? https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/will-obamacare-penalties-kill-your-small-business/ Actionable Insights from Small Business CPAs Fri, 13 Oct 2017 18:19:50 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Steve https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/will-obamacare-penalties-kill-your-small-business/#comment-2490 Mon, 22 Feb 2016 21:28:21 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=1657#comment-2490 In reply to Jane.

No additional guidance has been provided at this point. Sorry.

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By: Jane https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/will-obamacare-penalties-kill-your-small-business/#comment-2484 Fri, 19 Feb 2016 21:25:31 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=1657#comment-2484 Do you know if there has been an update yet for multiple s corp owner-employees? How would one find out if there has been one. Notice 2015-17 says it’s valid until end of 2015 or further guidance has been issued. I don’t generally have time to check on this monthly!

Also – can a 2 owner s corp reimburse just one of the owners for their health plan, and not the other – and thus make it a one participant plan? Or does that break other rules?

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By: Steve https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/will-obamacare-penalties-kill-your-small-business/#comment-2331 Tue, 29 Dec 2015 00:32:18 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=1657#comment-2331 In reply to Doug Sabra.

I would worry that you might be subject to the penalty, yes… so with 11 employees who aren’t shareholder-employees, you’re looking at about a $400,000 penalty. Sorry.

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By: Doug Sabra https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/will-obamacare-penalties-kill-your-small-business/#comment-2328 Mon, 28 Dec 2015 12:17:43 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=1657#comment-2328 We have a small Subchaper S with 15 employees (including two couples – 4 individuals that own the business).

One of the couples is retired military and has health insurance via the military. The other owner/couple pay their health insurance and is reimbursed by the S-Corp. The reimbursement is reported as taxable income on their W-2 and they deduct the expense as self-employed health insurance above the line on their personal returns. The health insurance coverage of the policy is compliant under the HCA. No other employees are offered health insurance.

Is it your interpretation that this business would be subject to fines for non-compliance?

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By: Juan Alvarez https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/will-obamacare-penalties-kill-your-small-business/#comment-1845 Fri, 15 May 2015 23:53:13 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=1657#comment-1845 Hi Steve,
Thanks for another great blog.
All my business engagement letters (now 7 pages long) as of 2014 have a standard paragraph which basically says……
“I CPA am not responsible for any ACA penalties or non compliance issues. It is your (client) responsibility to consult with a professional health insurance agent to acquire an ACA compliant health insurance plan based on your business needs if you wish to obtain offer health insurance to employees.
I only cover the basic rules such as no reimbursements allowed and W-2 reporting.

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By: Beth Nelson https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/will-obamacare-penalties-kill-your-small-business/#comment-1842 Fri, 15 May 2015 16:08:08 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=1657#comment-1842 We got a question via email from a reader who wanted more clarification on how the ACA affects S corporations with more than one employee. Since we realized this was a question many other readers would have, we thought it would be appropriate to add a more detailed treatment of the issue as a comment on this post:

The question: how does an S corporation with more than one employee handle the accounting for health insurance for its >2% shareholders? The answer: at this point no one, not even the IRS (by its own admission) knows.

In Notice 2015-17 the IRS said that it would study the issue more, and until the IRS issues specific guidance on this issue, S corporations can continue to account for their shareholders’ health insurance as they’ve always done in the past. In addition, the notice points out that S corporations with one single employee don’t have to worry about the new market reform rules, since the rules apply to group health plans and there is no such thing as a group health plan of one.

Hope this helps!

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By: David Reinus https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/will-obamacare-penalties-kill-your-small-business/#comment-1835 Tue, 12 May 2015 19:31:46 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=1657#comment-1835 In reply to Steve.

Thanks Steve.

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By: Steve https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/will-obamacare-penalties-kill-your-small-business/#comment-1834 Tue, 12 May 2015 18:48:24 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=1657#comment-1834 In reply to David Reinus.

Good questions, and I tried not to be absolute in my description, tried to be a little wishy-washy… but I would worry on behalf of any clients in a situation like that described in example #1 that (a) individual plans they’re buying maybe aren’t ACA-compliant, that (b) the arrangement itself isn’t an ACA-compliant group plan because it’s obviously not, and that (c) the non-covered employees are being discriminated against. Any of these flaws, it seems to me, may trigger penalties.

BTW I think we all want to think about this stuff in the same way that probably we all understand pension plans. In order for a pension plan deduction to work and in order for the plan to not discriminate, the precise rules need to be followed. And if a small business violates the rules–even if the small business has only good intentions and nobody arguably gets hurt–both the deduction and the plan are in jeopardy.

This is way the ACA penalties work, too, sort of…

What’s especially dangerous about the ACA penalties, however, is that you’re not talking about losing deductions… you’re talking about gigantic penalties. Business-killing penalties I would argue.

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By: Steve https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/will-obamacare-penalties-kill-your-small-business/#comment-1833 Tue, 12 May 2015 18:41:23 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=1657#comment-1833 In reply to Jerry Jones.

Hi Jerry, I’m not sure I understand your question… but if you want to include links to blog pages from your website or in an email you send your clients, sure, that’s fine.

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By: Jerry Jones https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/will-obamacare-penalties-kill-your-small-business/#comment-1832 Tue, 12 May 2015 17:07:45 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=1657#comment-1832 I would like to use your blog on my websites and also email blast it to about 1,000 individuals and small businesses.

Any chance that can happen?

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