Comments on: Sole Proprietor and Partnership PPP Tax Rules https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/sole-proprietor-and-partnership-ppp-tax-rules/ Actionable Insights from Small Business CPAs Tue, 01 Sep 2020 16:58:54 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Fred https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/sole-proprietor-and-partnership-ppp-tax-rules/#comment-9858 Tue, 01 Sep 2020 16:58:54 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=10297#comment-9858 In reply to Fred.

I may have answered my own question. While researching, I found the following:

“As a practical matter, the benefits of QSBS are available to any taxpayer other than a C corporation. QSBS can be issued to a limited liability company, other partnerships, trusts or S corporations. IRC § 1202 has rules that address the handling of QSBS’ benefits among a pass-through entity’s owners.”

So it seems that I am in the clear as long as I make sure that my S corporation is the one that claims the exclusion and then passes through the benefits to me as a shareholder.

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By: Wendy Korman, CPA https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/sole-proprietor-and-partnership-ppp-tax-rules/#comment-9857 Mon, 31 Aug 2020 21:15:50 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=10297#comment-9857 Hi Steve, as always, thank you for the updated information. I think the very last sentence is the most important, especially for sole proprietorships. I’ve been telling my clients to expect these loans will be counted as taxable income for Schedule C filers. I just wish the IRS would clarify this area, and SOON!

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By: PPP Loan Amount Increases - Evergreen Small Business https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/sole-proprietor-and-partnership-ppp-tax-rules/#comment-9839 Wed, 26 Aug 2020 19:23:41 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=10297#comment-9839 […] for planning for a post-pandemic economy Tax accounting for sole proprietors and partnerships How you should have handled your PPP loan (in case you get a second chance at […]

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By: Stephen Nelson CPA https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/sole-proprietor-and-partnership-ppp-tax-rules/#comment-9837 Wed, 26 Aug 2020 19:04:07 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=10297#comment-9837 In reply to S. Owens.

Sorry for the conflict with your employer and the miscommunications/misunderstandings regarding pay. Let me say that first…

Second, the accounting you describe isn’t completely “out of tune” with the way the PPP works/worked. It’s very possible employer used PPP money to pay you the past-due commissions you were due… and that he or she thought they needed to do so as a weekly payroll amount. Without getting into gritty details, the “bookkeeping advice” and ‘instructions” the SBA provided PPP borrowers was pretty skimpy. Lots of PPP borrowers tried to do their accounting of payroll costs so the amounts were very “regular” and “uniform.”

I think the only suggestion I have would be to discuss with your employer this issue. It does seem like if she or he had you work during the covered period that you deserve pay for that. And then if you were owed money for before the covered period that you’re owed additional amounts for that.

Good luck!

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By: S. Owens https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/sole-proprietor-and-partnership-ppp-tax-rules/#comment-9835 Wed, 26 Aug 2020 18:05:23 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=10297#comment-9835 Hi Steve, I realize that your expertise is with business owners. I found you while trying to locate answers for my situation and I’m hoping you might point me in the right direction. I am an employee of a small business who brought us back on a PPP loan. After the program was complete, I asked when I would receive a check for back commissions (a significant amount), all were earned/generated long before our 8 week PPP. I was advised that they were paid to me via the PPP weekly checks. This doesn’t seem right but I don’t know who to speak to to confirm or deny this. Do you know someone or agency I might contact to confirm if I should pursue or not?

Thank you very much,

S. Owens

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By: Stephen Nelson CPA https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/sole-proprietor-and-partnership-ppp-tax-rules/#comment-9829 Sun, 23 Aug 2020 14:22:31 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=10297#comment-9829 In reply to Andy.

I think you do what the bank wants. It sounds like they have some worry about whether or not you’re really in business.

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By: Andy https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/sole-proprietor-and-partnership-ppp-tax-rules/#comment-9828 Sun, 23 Aug 2020 07:01:28 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=10297#comment-9828 Hi, I recently received a PPP loan of $20000 as a Sole Proprietor in August 2020. I went to my bank to withdraw $10000. The Bank refused to give me the money, & have since withhold my accounts, claiming that I should bring a letter from an Attorney or a CPA indicating how long I’ve been in business & what does the business do.
What exactly do the Bank wants from the CPA or from me?

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By: Stephen Nelson CPA https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/sole-proprietor-and-partnership-ppp-tax-rules/#comment-9827 Sat, 22 Aug 2020 19:19:23 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=10297#comment-9827 In reply to Kimberly.

You need to talk with the bank, but can I suggest you first talk with your accountant? She or he can help you determine whether you can get bank and SBA to just give you forgiveness on the basis of your payroll expenses during the 24 weeks that followed you getting the loan.

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By: Kimberly https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/sole-proprietor-and-partnership-ppp-tax-rules/#comment-9826 Sat, 22 Aug 2020 17:28:59 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=10297#comment-9826 Thank you for your article very informative. My question is do you have any advice on how to return the loan. I received mine June 30 . I have spoke to my bank they said it needs to be requested back but kabbage won’t answer calls or emails..

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By: Fred https://evergreensmallbusiness.com/sole-proprietor-and-partnership-ppp-tax-rules/#comment-9825 Sat, 22 Aug 2020 17:06:45 +0000 http://evergreensmallbusiness.com/?p=10297#comment-9825 Hi, This question is about QSBS. I would have loved to comment on an older post, but am leaving this here per the site directions to comment on a recent post with open comments.

My 1 man S-corporation did some consulting work for a C corp startup and as part of my compensation, I accepted a convertible note, which has since become preferred equity shares.

I saw that one of the Section 1202 rules for being able to avoid capital gains taxes is that “the investor must not be a corporation.” I’m wondering whether I messed up by having the shares issued to my S corp instead of to me personally, or if as a 1 man S corp any gains after 5 years would still get favorable QSBS treatment?

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